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Friday the 13th (1980) - Just Rewatched (Bonus)
Let's Talk - Movies
Episode 47: Friday the 13th (1980) - Just Rewatched (Bonus)
Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez revisit the classic movie, again, and share more laughs over the subsequent titles from the franchise.
Synopsis: A group of camp counselors trying to reopen a summer camp called Crystal Lake, which has a grim past, are stalked by a mysterious killer.
Director: Sean S. Cunningham
Writer: Victor Miller, Ron Kurz
Cinematographer: Barry Adams
Composer: Harry Manfredini
Cast: Betsy Palmer, Adrienne King, Jeannine Taylor, Robbi Morgan, Kevin Bacon, Harry Crosby
Recorded: 10-04-23
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Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's talk movies. And I'm Jason Connell, on the show. Today I'm joined by special guest, Sal Rodriguez.
Sal Rodriguez:Thanks, Jason. Happy to be here.
Jason Connell:Hey, man, happy to have you backs out as usual. And having you back to do a bonus episode on our last episode of Let's Talk movies. Excited
Sal Rodriguez:and surprising, I figured we'd be like organizing on part two on part three and part four. I
Jason Connell:know because we were exploring Friday the 13th, the original 1980 just rewatched. I decided to revisit this franchise after many, many, many decades, so much fun. We explored the original movie, in fact, it was the uncut version is what I purchased. I love how it's uncut. That's classic, very fun. And we got into that and just how I was impressed with the filmmaking and it was a great exploration, I highly recommend people check that episode out. But while I was in post, I was thinking like, you know, there's a scene in a movie that I'm also very fond of that references this movie and the franchise as a whole because the first episode, our last episode about Friday 13th We also said the titles to all the other subsequent sequels because this franchise is probably had highs and some lows. And I tuned out at one point in time, and then they kept going and I was learning about titles when we did our episodes. So this other movie that I love has nothing to do with horror, so no thriller, no horror aspects at all.
Sal Rodriguez:And yet it references one of the most famous horror movies of all time and particularly, not just horror horror is one thing was slasher and slash. Yes slasher is almost its own genre in and of itself. It's like a subcategory of horror, right? Yeah, one of the most famous slasher horror films of all time.
Jason Connell:I'll bring up the poster there is a great poster behind you. The silhouette of the body and you know, has the bloody knife. It's really cool. Great poster. Yes. But the movie that came to mind and I started thinking about it when I was editing our episode was kicking and screaming. Now the Will Ferrell movie. I fell in love with it right away. No one told me about it. There was no fanfare I was a cinephile looking for movies like this. It's a witty comedy drama directed by Noah bomb back. So I was watching his career. And most recently, he produced on Barbie, because his very talented now wife, Greta Gerwig, directed Barbie and wrote Barbie so and I think he co wrote, I should say, so he's also worked with Wes Anderson, and he's made so many other amazing movies. I should just do it episodes about him. But I saw this movie, his first movie, fell in love with it. So I've been a fan ever since. It's a coming of age story. Here's exactly what it says. It follows the post graduation struggles of a group of college friends who are reluctant to embrace adulthood. So they've graduated college, but they haven't really moved on with their life yet. And the college that they attended was Occidental College, or at least that's where they shot it. So moving to LA and eventually moving to that area, and walking that beautiful campus all the time with my two dogs separately over their lifespans, Brody and the Nico. I was always reminded of kicking and screaming like, Oh, this is when Elliot Gould walks with his son and they're talking. And then it became very meta for me. And also 90210 was filmed at the occidental colleges, as well as so many other things. And we'll be clueless, I think scenes from Star Trek, so it's a beautiful campus. It's a smaller campus. Obama, our former president went to school there for a short time, Ben Affleck and I think Matt Damon may have gone but Ben Affleck absolutely did. So.
Sal Rodriguez:Wait, Jason, where is occidental?
Jason Connell:It's an Eagle Rock.
Sal Rodriguez:It's an Eagle Rock. Yes, that's right.
Jason Connell:It's right there off of by York and Colorado Boulevard. Very cool, beautiful campus. And this movie is what put it on my radar. It's literally just down the street from Patton Lorraine's, where the opening scene from the diner and Reservoir Dogs is and that's still standing so I was researching living in Tulsa, Oklahoma watching movies. Where was that shot? So when I moved to Los Angeles and you move around, or I did I live in different areas a lot. And it was like all m g, I'm going to have breakfast where they shot Reservoir Dogs. I'm walking this beautiful campus. So again, this movie really struck a lot of chords with me. It's very funny. Some of the actors and actresses moved on to lots of things. Parker Posey comes to mind Eric Stoltz, many other actors, and it's a great movie and it holds up well. But it's a movie without a bunch of cell phones too. It's like predates all of that. So it's kind of fun to watch an older movie and be like, Oh, wow, yeah. Okay, when they said they had to be somewhere to meet somebody, they had to actually do it. So a lot of funny stuff. But in the movie, sow, they play trivia. And it's a funny scene as they're trying to remember the names of all of the Friday the 30s to that point, and that point in time, and I'll say it, there was only nine. Okay, there has since been 12. And which this is a remake.
Sal Rodriguez:Jason, this is a great test for a fan. Totally, like could offend name. Okay, maybe a fan could I love Hellraiser? Could I didn't name all the HellRaisers? I don't think so. I don't think I'm all the
Jason Connell:Star Trek's Yeah, exactly. So before we play the scene, we'll do what we did in the last episode. And we'll go back and forth ping pong back and forth and say, the names and the years, the subsequent years. Okay. And we'll start with the beginning and I'll go first Friday, the 13th 1980.
Sal Rodriguez:Friday the 13th part to 1981. Lady that one
Jason Connell:year turnaround? Yeah. And now they had they had a milk cow. It's Friday the 13th part three in 3d 1980 to
Sal Rodriguez:another year. Friday, the 13th The Final Chapter 1984
Jason Connell:saw this one in the theater had Corey Feldman in
Sal Rodriguez:it. I like Corey Feldman and I'm not embarrassed to say it.
Jason Connell:I love him. So there you go. Friday the 13th a new beginning. 1985.
Sal Rodriguez:Friday the 13th part six Jason lives 1986. Now
Jason Connell:remember that one that comes up in this it's kind of a nice punch line to the same. Friday the 13th part seven the new blood 1988 Friday
Sal Rodriguez:the 13th part eight Jason takes Manhattan 1989
Jason Connell:might be my favorite title. Dad, dad, dad. I love it. Everybody was the new take in Manhattan and we talked about this in the last episode. But you know the Muppets took Manhattan, the Gremlins to was shot in Manhattan. You know, Home Alone to he's in Manhattan. So eventually a franchise has to wind up in Manhattan. In a Crocodile Dundee. Was there. Yep. I love it. Jason goes to hell. The final Friday. Is it 1993 They lie. They lie.
Sal Rodriguez:Jason 10 also called Jason x 2002. Big
Jason Connell:Jump their big jump in time. Now we have something that I didn't even know about when we did the last episode. I learned it in the notes, but Freddy vs. Jason 2003.
Sal Rodriguez:So now Jason, you know about Freddy vs. Jason prior, I
Jason Connell:may have heard something, but like there's alien versus predator. So I'm so far removed from these franchises. But I was an early adopter. So when you start jumping the shark, with these things, it's like, what do they even have against each other? So it's like, I don't understand. And you know, whatever.
Sal Rodriguez:It's kind of like a feral cat and a raccoon. Really. They just kind of ignore each other. Yeah, exactly. And then Friday 13th 2009. So what does that mean? Reboot? Yeah. Okay. Are you wait arrived remake of the original?
Jason Connell:I don't know. I do not
Sal Rodriguez:see this one. No, you know what, I think I did see this one I did, because Jason's buff. And this one. Looks like he's been pumping iron.
Jason Connell:Also a great documentary with Arnold Schwarzenegger in public dialogue.
Sal Rodriguez:But with the eye pub when you get the pub.
Jason Connell:Yeah, exactly. So there you go. And we said the years just to give context, they're not saying the years they're just trying to rattle off the first nine because at the time of this movie, there was only nine. So this movie came out in 95. Film the 94. So the last one would be goes to hell, the final Friday. Now, I tuned out on this franchise after the final chapter. I thought it was a great way to end it. I'm young and I'm thinking okay, that was it. What arrived, I'll revisit this franchises again. And then bam, there's a new beginning. And I was like, oh, no, that's when I started to have that feeling of like, oh, they'll just keep going with things right. And I was disappointed and I was like a teenager, young teen. So that happened, but until then, I loved him, but I haven't revisited this and so, so long. So since our taping, or subsequent episode, yeah, I've now watched Part Two and I'm starting part three. I don't have the 3d goggles, but Hi, I'm watching. So you're gonna have to come back and do more. I know totally lame. I know. Even if I wore their goggles, I don't think much is going to happen. Just
Sal Rodriguez:wear them anyway, even if it doesn't do anything, Jason this just reminded me of something. And because we have Freddy vs. Jason, it reminds me of something they can do right now. I think it would be well received. Okay, you do a hybrid mashup of Friday the 13th and Friday, you have Jason oral and now you're versus ice cube and Chris Tucker.
Jason Connell:I would watch it. Now we're talking. That makes more sense. It
Sal Rodriguez:makes more sense that Jason versus Friday. Yeah. First fret Jason versus Freddy. No Freddy vs. Jason.
Jason Connell:Yeah, exactly. It's okay. I am now going to bring up this poster. There it is kicking and screaming. Just a little shout out to this wonderful movie by Yeah, I
Sal Rodriguez:don't think I've ever seen it. I think you're bringing this to my attention today. Well, I
Jason Connell:hope I bring it to many people's attention. And I'll probably come back into an episode just on this movie. But this came to mind. And I want to play this clip for you and our listeners and our viewers. Enjoy it. We'll talk after we'll laugh. We'll cry. We'll try to make sense of it all. And we'll just go from there. Tell me when you're ready. You're all set? Okay.
Sal Rodriguez:I'm all set.
Media:Hey, Chad, you want to dig in? Oh, no, sir. At my age I find trivia too exhausting. Okay, I'll go I'll go Can you name me all nine of the Friday the 13th one just started 1313 To 13 three and 3d for the final chapter five and the beginning. Seven is a new one as JSON text 966 Jason said some time is fast I'm pretty sure it's Jason Jason kills it that's it there's no chasing kills that might that will get big you shouldn't even be treatment. One of us chasing kills is an idiotic Jason kills and every one of those moves. So what's your take? There is no TV show we shut up for a second. Yeah, it's not Jason kills. Is it? Jason lives with Jason does.
Sal Rodriguez:You know how you do you know you mentioned Reservoir Dogs earlier. When was this movie made? 8595 90 Okay, wait, was this after Reservoir Dogs? Yes. Okay, well, they I think
Jason Connell:as you from territories that feel it has that moving camera, feel witty dialogue, just different dialogue a lot going on like a Robert Altman movie, there's so much context. In fact, watching this and getting ready for it tonight. I haven't seen this movie in a few years. I've loved it forever. I even recognize things Noah Bombeck the director is at the table next to them. And as a camera follows Stoltz. He has an interaction and a line. I'm like, I didn't even recognize it initially, years ago, but now I know more who he is. And I was picking up things. In fact, while they're trying to solve the end here, which is funny that one guy he rattled them all off and he just didn't know it was Jason lives right? He was he was he didn't say he said goes to hell. I don't think he said the final Friday. But very good. But was funny. As the scene continued. That character who's great in the movie, jumped into another trivia. I know you didn't hear it that listening because there's no way a lot going on. Oh, he started out another one. He went into another one. That was movies that turned into TV shows. Oh, and I'm like thinking holy cow. That was way before the Karate Kid. But he was like MASH breaking away Weird Science. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I for this movie is rich with these types of things. But
Sal Rodriguez:Jason was Remington Steele a movie first and then a TV show. Well, now I'm thinking well, what other movies became TV shows mash
Jason Connell:later, but that was in reverse. That was a show that became a movie okay, but movies that became shows mash is one of the best ones because it had super run as a show. Why wait? Let's focus on this for a second. No, but no, I'm
Sal Rodriguez:gonna be thinking about that later.
Jason Connell:How funny was that though? I love Jason suck some caulk. suck some caulk. And then how long guys like Jason kills in every one of those succulent movies. He they love it. And of course he's right. Jason kills is a terrible title. No one was buying it and then she was like trying to give it to her boyfriend like, oh, we'll just give it to him. Anyway.
Sal Rodriguez:Now wait, Jason, since we're talking about all this, one of the recent Halloween movies Halloween kills. See though, sorry, Michael. Sorry, Michael Myers.
Jason Connell:I also love the fact that my name is Dr. Jason lives. I remember this when that came out. I was like, Okay, that's cool. I'd already given up on the franchise, but I liked it. And I love Jason takes Manhattan. But I love the end of the sequences. Like, who cares what Jason does? So good, so good. So hopefully they continued their trivia and worked in the other subsequent titles. Tan, Freddy vs. Jason and the remake and sales we talked about before. The last one came out in oh nine isn't gonna whine for this franchise to come out with something new? Absolutely.
Sal Rodriguez:It's way overdue. In fact, I'm surprised because, you know, I know a little bit about movies, you know this much? Sure. So they they give a studio a license, but then they're obliged to make certain movies by certain time they're obliged to make so many movies within a timeframe. Speaking of Hellraiser, as I mentioned earlier, some of the HellRaisers were not well received, because it kind of threw them together because they were obliged to make the movie. So they kind of threw something together. Everybody hated it, but it kept it maintain the license, and then they can do the next one. So I'm very surprised it's been this many years since 2009. We've got nothing Friday, the 13th Nothing. Yeah,
Jason Connell:why not a sequel to this when the last time maybe it didn't do well. So reinvented again, there's a lot there you could do but what you talked about before him. And again, I highly recommend listening to that episode. It's a deeper dive. It doesn't have these characters. This is a franchise built off expendable characters. Sure. Right. And not the Expendables with sly and all those guys they live. And that's a great movie, a John Carpenter movie as well. But it's like they bring these people in, no one knows each other. They're camp counselors. There's never kids, it's always like before the kids and then this may have ensues. But only rarely do they go to the next movie. And sometimes when they go to the next movie, whoever it is one person, they usually get killed off and you just keep handing the baton off. So we don't have like these feelings like Jamie Lee Curtis, and Halloween if you're lacking that, but you can use it to your advantage and reinvent it. So I'm waiting for that to happen. But this was just a tacked on bonus episode a chance to explore something funny, from another movie referencing something that we're talking about. So it was kind of meta, and I thought it was appropriate and a nod to another great movie.
Sal Rodriguez:No, Jason, I'm very, very happy to be here because one of the things I just remembered and I just remembered this, so I was a kid would go to summer camp every year we spent a week in these cabins near Palm Springs place called Yucaipa, a place called pilgrim pines. We go there every year really, I loved it part of my childhood I really enjoyed. But I remember these movies were coming out around Motown. So I remember thinking, like to be appreciative of the counselors, because being a camp counselor was a dangerous job. They're
Jason Connell:expendable. I'll be okay. But I can't get to.
Sal Rodriguez:Jason is not coming for me. He's coming for
Jason Connell:them. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty great. Are Jason's Mom, what is coming? Or Pamela? Oh, that's all I got. So I
Sal Rodriguez:really love this a lot. I love the tip of the hat. I love that we're also we're giving a tip of the hat to a tip of the hat. That exactly to to add a that's better.
Jason Connell:So without further ado, please enjoy Friday the 13th So thank you so much for listening and please be sure to subscribe to the let's talk movies podcast and the let's talk movies YouTube Live Channel. You can also really help us by giving the show a five star rating on Apple podcast.
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